New Hampshire vs the TSA?

By on February 28, 2011 in Uncategorized
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A bill to help fix the TSA problem at our airports is coming up for a hearing at 11:15 a.m. on Tuesday in the Legislative Office Building Room 204, which is the Committee on Criminal Justice. Please come show your support for the bill and tell the committee what you have experienced at the airport. 

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AN ACT making the touching or viewing with a technological device of a person’s breasts or genitals by a government security agent without probable cause a sexual assault.

1 New Subparagraph; Sexual Assault; Touching or Viewing by Government Security Agent. Amend RSA 632-A:4, I by inserting after subparagraph (c) the following new subparagraph:

(d) When the person, acting in his or her role as a security agent of the federal, state, or local government, touches the genitals or breasts of any other person or touches or views with any technological device the genitals or breasts of any other person without probable cause for such touching or viewing. For purposes of this subparagraph, the following shall not constitute probable cause: discussing or possessing a copy of the Constitution, discussing the security apparatus of an airport, being on the premises of an airport, possessing an airplane ticket or any other type of ticket for access to mass transportation, driving a motor vehicle on a public way, or ownership of firearms.

Full text of HB0628

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commonsenseindy
commonsenseindy

There were no terrorist attacks when the TSA was simply screening people with their metal detectors. Why do we need "enhanced" pat downs and "enhanced" screenings of our citizens by untrained, uneducated, non-citizen goons? Try 1,000 scanners X $200,000 each equals 200 million dollars. And, Obama signed that contract.

Keep up your good work.

profisherman
profisherman

Jayratch,
notice how it was not in quotes, and I did not bastardize the quote. Whether this was actually said by franklin is not the point. I am not falsely attributing my opinion to ben franklin, simply agreeing with him. Yes exposing my body to dangerous radiation or an enhanced patdown is a 4th amendment violation. sorry that you don't see it that way. this is exactly the tradeoff they are asking us to make. we should waive our 4th amendment rights as a condition of getting on an airplane so we can be "safe" (temporary security). . the funny thing is we are getting neither. because as I said it is a THEATER. we all know that. do you really think you are safer? really? this is a perfect application of this quote widely attributed to ben franklin. the more we ask the government to protect and take care of us, the less free we are. i don't want the government trying to keep me safe by assaulting me at an airport. i guess you do. everybody is entitled to their opinion, for at least a little longer anyway.

Jayratch
Jayratch

Actually, the quote is "those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." He went on to talk about self defense.

This is perhaps the single most bastardized quote from libertarians, and poorly attributed at that; it's attribution to Franklin is not known with great certainty. But the essence of the misquote is "essential liberty." Is privacy, in an airport, an essential liberty? Is the possible avoidance of violent death a little temporary safety?

You can argue those questions as much as you like, but please don't invent a false dichotomy between unsafe freedom and safe tyranny, sans middle ground, by falsely attributing your opinion to a libertine liberal diplomat.

libsux
libsux

TSA is merely an extension of the communist conspiracy to make all of the citizens into the proletariat of the marxist thugs that now run congress , senate, DOJ, TSA and the new GOD of AmeriKa comrade 0buma.

scanpruf
scanpruf

In ancient times, when a nation was threatened by an enemy, the leaders would arm all the citizens and order them to defend their farms and lands. This continued, even in the United States, up until the end of World War II.

Now, a nation feels safe only if its citizens are helpless. Next thing you know, Al Qaeda will walk in here armed only with a spoon and take over the whole country.

kathy williams
kathy williams

you americans need to get this dealt with. i would rather be blown to smithereens than allow and condone this groping.its not necessary.its intrusive. its giving your freedom away. stop allowing it.

Philosopherking
Philosopherking

There are much better more intelligent ways to handle this than raw body scanning. I think profilng was a pretty good way to deal with this. You can compile nation of orgin, ethnicity, background, favorite foods, etc, etc, and etc in order to narrow down a list of likely terrorist. From there, you screen them more carefully than others and if they do something that arouses suspicion then they can be serached with a search warrant or not allowed to fly.

Summer East End
Summer East End

Common sense please....When terrorists/suicide bombers plan an attack they know they are going to die. Therefore, it doesn't matter where they have "devices" placed on or IN their bodies. Therefore, unless people are willing to be subjected to cavity searches groping people isn't a viable safety measure.

Jay Cunnington
Jay Cunnington

Unless you get a free MRI with your airline ticket (but would they give the results?).

DiDi
DiDi

No, they would not let anyone see the results except for a pervert hidden away in a private booth!!

Jeni
Jeni

No but you would get megatons of radiation!!

FoxHollowMan
FoxHollowMan

If you don't feel safe flying without everyone's constitutional rights being violated, then choose another form of transportation. Your fear does not trump basic rights (like the right to travel without being stopped and searched) that were recognized as far back as the Magna Carta.

Who is the greater threat to our freedom -- al-Qaeda or the TSA? Al-Queda may kill a few of us but they can never take away our freedom. The TSA is doing a good job of that though.

lja
lja

If anyone 'feels safer' because they are being 'touched'...they are touched...in the head!

TSA really sux
TSA really sux

Another thing New Hampshire and other states can do is have their airports "opt out" of using the TSA and go back to using private security firms who can be held accountable. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/airports-can-opt...

Amy
Amy

They can't anymore. TSA opted out of the option for airports to opt out.

NoFunLookinatuneway
NoFunLookinatuneway

Dummy no they can not. Bill just passed the entire Congress to end all airport opt outs not previously performed. Check your resources b 4 u post.

Just in time
Just in time

hmm...I must be the only one that voluntarily goes through for a second "touching." I'd rather be touched inappropriately EVERY SINGLE TIME I get on a plane, than die just trying to go somewhere for business or vacation

Jack
Jack

So... Have you look at the statistics? Just asking... You have a greater chance to be shot to death at the mall than die in a terrorist attack. In case you hadn't realized, the scanners can't see anything concealed in your body but I'm sure dogs would be able to sniff it. Anyway, if you have time, just try to find out how many people died in a car crash just today. Then compare it with the amount of people who died both in a plane terrorist attack and in any other terrorist attck in our country since September 11. Maybe you'll start thinking on your own instead of believing the bullshit your government is telling you.

Jon Deniro
Jon Deniro

Put your entirely irrational fear aside for a moment and consider these three thoughts.

1 - You are far more likely to die in an automobile collision on your way to the airport than from a terrorist attack.

2 - You are far more likely to die from pilot error or mechanical failure than from a terrorist attack.

3 - If you still choose to live in fear, then stay home. You can choose to waive YOUR Constitutional rights...you can not waive anybody else's rights. To think that everyone else should be denied their rights to appease your irrational fears is not only incredibly selfish, but inherently un-American.

C Watts
C Watts

You deserve to die at the hands of cowards as you are too weak to embrace FREEDOM!

profisherman
profisherman

are you kidding me? it's called "security theatre". it doesn't make you safer! ever heard of ben franklin? he said those who would trade freedom for security, DESERVE NEITHER. you, sir, don't deserve to live under our great constitution. you betray it with your whiney little cries for the government to protect you from whatever threat the government decides is threatening to you. code "orange" or "red" since 2001. be very afraid. go live in north korea. they're really safe there.

Linda
Linda

The odds of being blown up on a plane are infinitesimal (even before the scanning or patdowns started) compared to your odds of being killed while driving to work. Have you given up driving?

Duh
Duh

Maybe we should all be subjected to anal probes before getting on planes. You never know whether terrorists might have explosives hidden up there.

Isn't anal violation better than dying trying to get somewhere?

Jay Cunnington
Jay Cunnington

So you're more scared of the terroristic bogeyman than your own government? The terrorists have won then. Terrorism is, by definition, random. I don't worry about it.

Stephen Knutson
Stephen Knutson

Americans have been cowards to have submitted to this personal invasion from the beginning. Don't touch my junk or I will not fly.

3BlindMice
3BlindMice

Better not take the train or bus, either. And, I hear that west of Atlanta, there are VIPR vans on the interstate highways too!

mel
mel

its about freakin time !