State and local resistance to the detention provisions contained in the National Defense Authorization Act continues to grow, rapidly emerging as a nationwide movement.
The Tennessee legislature will consider HB1629 and SB2669 in the 2012 session. The legislation would effectively nullify the detention provisions in the NDAA and would also require federal agents making an arrest in the Volunteer State for any reason to first obtain written permission from the county sheriff.
This bill declares that any federal law purporting to require local or state law enforcement agencies to act at the direction of the federal government or the United States military is beyond the authority granted to the federal government pursuant to the United States Constitution, is not recognized by this state, is specifically rejected by this state and is declared to be invalid in this state. This bill further declares that any federal law purporting to give federal agents or employees, including any members of the United States military, the authority of any state or local law enforcement agency of this state, without the express permission of this state, is beyond the authority granted to the federal government pursuant to the United States Constitution, is not recognized by this state, is specifically rejected by this state, and is declared to be invalid in this state.
The act takes aim at indefinite detention provisions in the NDAA. Tenth Amendment Center communications director Mike Maharrey called language in the NDAA vague and overbroad, pointing out that Americans should never simply trust in the good intentions and moral clarity of the president or federal judges to protect their rights.
“It falls on the states to step in and protect their citizens,” he said. “I can’t imagine a more clear-cut application of state and local interposition as a check on federal power. What could be a more palpable, deliberate and dangerous unconstitutional act than the federal government indefinitely detaining an American citizen without due process?”
The Tennessee bill also “makes it a Class E felony for any official, agent, or employee of the United States government to enforce or attempt to enforce any federal law, order, rule or regulation that is beyond the authority granted to the federal government pursuant to the United States Constitution,” and includes provisions for kidnapping charges if a federal agent were to detain a U.S. citizen in Tennessee under the NDAA.
Rep. Bill Dunn (R-Knoxville) and Rep. Cameron Sexton (R-Crossville) sponsor the House version of the bill. Sen. Stacey Campfield (R-Knoxville) sponsors the Senate bill.
The Volunteer state joins Washington and Virginia considering legislation to nullify detention provisions in the NDAA. And local governments have also stepped up, including El Paso and Fremont Counties in Colorado. While some argue the NDAA doesn’t apply to American citizens, Maharrey said that notion should not stop state and local governments from following James Madison’s admonition to interpose and draw a line in the sand.
“If what supporters say is true and the NDAA does not authorize indefinite detention of Americans, what is the harm in this legislation? Why would anybody oppose it? It does nothing but serve notice that state and local officials will not sit back and allow the federal government to exercise unconstitutional powers – powers supporters claim don’t exist anyway. It simply affirms a fence that supposedly already exists. The only rational I can find for opposing this bill is if they really do want the option of detaining Americans without due process to remain open,” he said. “You can only oppose this legislation if you accept the idea that the federal government has the authority to do whatever it wants with absolutely no check on its actions – Constitution be damned. If you ask me, that’s a lot scarier than whatever terrorist threat they claim to be protecting me from.”
TAC executive Michael Boldin said he expects other states to soon follow the lead of Tennessee, Virginia and Washington.
“We have pretty strong indications that Rhode Island, Utah, Maine, New Jersey, Oklahoma and other states will be introducing similar legislation soon. This is just a start – and activists all over the country need to contact state legislators right now to voice their support.”
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The bill you are stating is listed as no votes and is dated February 8 2012. Do you know a new bill in TN.
Skipfloss, Slavery was illegal in the north. 98% of the whites in the South did not own slaves. Slave owners were at around 2% of the white population in the south.
Slavery in the Americas predated the whites and the blacks. It was very common, in fact usual, for the eastern tribes to take prisoners and turn them into slaves for their own use and for trading. They fought each other constantly and there were plenty of Indian slaves which were often tattooed. The European slave owners found that the blacks were superior in endurance to the Indians that they accepted in trade from the tribes. The Europeans at first followed the old testament in endentured servitude, more or less. I dont know if they were Jews or christians but they were Europeans. Most of the Western tribes were not warlike above the Mexican border. However many of the whites had come to expect warlike behavior from any Indian. Fortunately we married more of them than we killed.
This is how NAZI Germany started. The ZI part in NAZI stands for ZIonist and a reference can be found for this in Germany. David Duke is not a Jew hater, he is a critic of Zionism, which is not Judaism.
If you call yourself an American you would hate Zionism too. Mossad it turns out, did 9/11. Wake up people.
Education is important, so have a little before you post comments on the internet for anyone to see. Keep being fed lies by the Zionist controlled media.
The Slave trade in the united states WAS dominated by those of Jewish descent. The major center for the trade was run out of Newport, Rhode Island which also happens to be the site of the first Synagogue in the U.S. The trade was halted on Saturdays to observe the Sabbath. If you bothered to watch the video below you would be convinced, so don't waste my time.
Jews owned the black slave trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6r8vH8Dehw
Your first problem is this was on PBS one of the most communistic broadcasting services in America. The second is you are referring to David Duke, a known Jew hater. I have never heard any ethnic group had a corner on the slave trade including blacks themselves. Slavery in the United States was started by blacks. His reference to the movie "The Ten Commandments," is an attempt to turn a movie that portrayed the Jew as against slavery into supporters of the slave trade. Although I am not Jewish I will stand, as will many other Christians, with the Jewish people. I will also stand with the Catholics now that they are being attacked by this administration. I will stand with any member of any religion that does not teach killing non believers.
You all need to learn your history. Slavery was ubiquitous throughout all of recorded history it every culture and place - it still exists today. There were also many white slave that were called the euphamism "indentured servants"
And yes salve ownership was rare in the south only the very rich owned slaves.
@GloriaJoy How right you are the Yankee's owned more slaves than any southerner ,they used them to wait on them hand and foot ,and most of the cotton plantations were owned by the northeners
States rights are often overlooked. After all it may be the United States, but what would be the point of uniting something that had no merit. Bravo Tennessee! The New World Order will fail.
Hey white America, if you had picked your OWN cotton 150 years ago...you wouldn't have the problem you're suffering from today!! Just LOVE DAT gubment cheeeeze BWAA HAAA HAAA HAAAWWW!!!!!
@caduceus622 You know that PROBLEM can still be eliminated today , but that is why Obama is trying to get rid of all of the guns in civilian hands
"Tennessee Bills Propose Kidnapping Charges for Federal Agents": Enough of the proposing already. Let's get this law to the alter, and pass it.
Ships with captains run onto coral reefs and other nasty things that are hidden. We have a body of captains who care and are not hiding anything, the American people who do not want this ship run aground let alone sunk. Someone else does obviously but it isnt the people. I have found my Congressional representatives much more responsive than the president, any president. The office of presidency is a high concentration of power, which like all high concentration of power throoughout the history of the human race attracts intrigue, conspiracy and dirty double crossing like we are getting now.
@GloriaJoy Congress originated and passed the NDAA - how can you reasonably say that Congress is "much more responsive"?. Congress is the biggest part of the problem - if they wouldn't pass unConstitutional legislation, then the President wouldn't have the opportunity to sign it.
@GloriaJoy I think you are headed in the right direction Gloria. If I am honest I am a anarcho-capitalist in the Rothbard tradition. The closer we get to no government (monopoly on power) the better off we will be.
Don't forget the grand juries POCO.
Yes juries can have a devastating effect on tyranny. That is why we can not get juries in many cases. You can get a jury for a $20 parking ticket but not if they take your child. It's called "family court" and that somehow makes the tyranny OK.
They fear the jury as much as they fear the Internet, that is why FIJA volunteers exercising the 1st amendment are charged with felonies. It's a sad state of affairs and the only solution besides arms is education.
Start a local paper NOW while you still can.
I feel, at this juncture in the conversation, that a history lesson is needed with a possible solution proposed.
This country had a weak central government until Abraham Lincoln started the War Between the States by forcing the south to fire on Fort Sumpter. The bone of contention, as everyone knows, was not slavery but the state’s right to either allow or not allow slavery within their borders.
Lincoln had another motive in mind however. He, like Hamilton, believed in a large central government and he owed plenty to those who got him elected. His plan was to raid the treasury by having the federal government fund public works projects (read: the railroads) thereby enriching his friends and allies.
Up to this point in our history roads and canals were built by private enterprise or lottery and the costs of those projects were relatively low. Because these projects were funded privately they were built efficiently and by the shortest route possible.
From the end of that war forward our country has had a government that has ignored the constitution. The office of the president has gotten stronger while local governments have become weaker and weaker. Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus started the course that has brought us to a president who thinks that he can do as he wants without restraint. The sad part is that they are getting away with it.
There is a solution, however, available to you and me. Juries have it within their power to nullify laws written and passed by lawmakers and deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court. Because the government, it seems, is in the hands of the elites this, I believe, is the only way the common man can affect jurisprudence. As Mark D. Ledbetter said in his book, America’s Forgotten History, “We The People, sitting as a jury, are competent to nullify law we consider unjust or unconstitutional.” He goes on to state that the principle was established by the Magna Carta and proved in this country by the case brought against a Peter Zenger involving freedom of the press and the sedition law passed in 1798. The jury not only found Mr. Zenger innocent but also found the law “wanting”.
Although a judge will not tell the jury they have this power and in some cases even deny it, this power does exist to the people and should be used to slow or even reverse what history is showing us as a progressive power grab by the elites who think they should be and are the final arbiters of our collective fate. This may be our only way to regain the power the constitution has given us without resorting to violent revolution. What has become clear is that those we elect to represent us will not reverse the trend.
Love the history lesson. Bravo! Still dont need a president. I hope you understand why. It is an unnecessary concentratration of power which will always be inherently dangerous. Love you poco424.
You guys are really on the ball. We should all teach REAL history in guberment schools. Don't forget Lincoln the man that turned a nation of 20 million slaves into a nation of 200 million slaves. What a great man. (NOT)
Our problems have nothing to do with 9/11,it started under Roosevelt,but was really kicked in gear under Kennedyand Johnson when they put the welfare state into effect, this gave minorities more and more power the more kids they had the more they were paid it increaced their numbers to an unmanageable number and has cost us working class more every year to sustain their living. For a while it droped off because of the time limits put on welfare ,but with Clinton ,Bush and now this "Wanna be King' illegal allien that soros,Builderbergs and the rest of the money people bought in as president we have more and more illegals allowed to mooch off of the shrinking working white class. Now all of the Federal government has been allowed to grow out of control. It is time ,with bills like this being put in,we need our states to put a stop to it NOW before it can really be put into action and if they don't, we the people need to stop it before EL PRESIDENTIA brings more troops home to back his move, He needs to be impeached Today under emergency session before he can shut down those who are still loyal to the constitution and the people
You may be absolutely right about when it started (under FDR) and also about Johnson. Kennedy, however is another topic. I know of nothing he did to either accelerate or create any problems although he did have many personal ones. But it is certain Carter did. I do believe September 11, 2001. May have made everything much more prevalent and recognizable and certainly accelerated them. Many have said obama is the worst president since Carter, however seems to me he is the worst we have ever had with Johnson and FDR tied for a distant second. Glad you pointed that out. Roosevelt wanted to be a king just like obama. The difference is, if obama is reelected he may be successful.
The states do need to act and I personally think they will. I have been in contact with some members of congress, that refused to vote for this and it was explained to me the heat they were under to vote "for" it. Consequently, what we must do is check out who voted for it (in our respective states) and not reelect any who are up for reelection. Regardless of which party they belong to.
@AZDon I keep hearing all of these liberal groups and conspiry theorist saying 9/11 was an inside job and it could have well been the case but not by Bush ,he did not have the time or the organization to pull it off ,however Clinton and Gore did. The plan was to have Gore if elected to look like a great hero by stoping the execution of flying the planes into the towers ,but he lost and decided "What the hell let's let Bush take the fall" and let our liberal buddies come up with the conspiricies. "THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE"
I don’t know exactly what your implying but I never considered 9-11 an inside job, nor did I ever think Bush was in any way to blame. Since he was much closer to the reasons and causes of the attack of 9-11, and he never blamed anyone except the terrorists I will go with that. I mentioned 9-11 in reference to our financial troubles in this country. Make no mistake the muslims would love to destroy the United States in any way they can. If the apathetic attitude toward muslims of this administration does not change they may be successful with the blessing of obama. He has applied both the Sal Alinsky and Cloward and Piven strategies quite well. NDAA and FEMA are both examples of his attitude toward the American citizen.
Why not an Amendment to get rid of the office of presidency all together. Who the hell needs a tyrant anyway. I was taught in grammar school it was a compromise with Hamilton and other monarchists and there is no need for a Commander in Chief as some of my friends insisted especially when the prezs usually have no military training whatsoever. George Washington was elected president and commander in chief because he was proven to have military savy. Geroge Bush? Give me a break! Obama, lol!
My perspective is a little different than yours. Therefore, I guess I will have to (politely) disagree with you, to a point. It is not the office of president itself that is the problem. A ship without a Captain has no definitive course. Except for a few occasions it has worked out fine for 236 years (that’s a pretty good record). It is the power the office has "recently" acquired, that it was not meant to have, over those same 236 years. The current problems began on September 11, 2001. However, when done right the three branches are supposed to be their own checks and balances. Furthermore, the free press is also supposed to be the watch dog for the people. When not corrupted this government works fine and to the benefit of "We the People." When however, the free press takes sides and favors one party over the others the system begins to break down. Consequently, money has corrupted this government. The current administration has gamed the system like no other has, and done it with the help of the free press. If congress acts responsibility it can curtail the power grab and corruption. If not we may have to "re-boot" the whole government. Doing so may risk losing the constitution we have currently and doing so also risks being taken over by the very trouble makers who are causing the current problems. Therefore, the question remains "can the changes we necessarily need to make to curtail this transformation be done peacefully or will it take a civil war to get it done." Hopefully, the answer is peacefully. But it does seem that may be up to the Legislative Branch of the government and depend on if they collectively take action to right this lisping ship.
Our current constitution was wisely set up for changes. Therefore it was and is changeable with amendments. However, the proof of the illegitimacy of the current (obama) take over is even the built in ability to change the constitution is being by-passed. But on the other hand he advised us before he was sworn in he intended to fundamentally transform our government. So in essence he is fulling a promise he made. We should have know what was coming. Many of us did.
@AZDon Actually the problems began when Abraham Lincoln destroyed States rights, and then we have Woodrow Wilson selling us out to the private Federal Reserve. A good number of Presidents are corrupt, and work for the corporate banking cartel that is destroying this nation. You don't get to such a powerful position without being corrupt, and evil. No one person should have the power to steer the ship into an iceberg. Congress, though voting on one definitive action, should be the one to steer the nation. Although clearly we must first elect an uncorrupted majority because currently even the hundreds there are steering us in to an iceberg as well. In essence we the passengers of the USA are all inadvertently driving ourselves to hell through sheer ignorance, and complacency.
I agree there shouldn't be a President to become a dictator or simply be a big shot figure head for everyone to fawn over. We got Ambassadors to represent us overseas, and we have Senators, and Representatives to represent the people in government. The executive branch should just be people appointed by Congress to head agencies or departments.
Nice reporting, and nice analysis. Speaking on behalf of Oath Keepers I want your organization to know that we are deeply indebted to your powerful work for liberty and our organization follows your work closely.
Thank you sincerely.
Elias Alias, Oath Keepers Board of Directors
I'm afraid you are wrong, my friend. The only thing I see in our future is a stronger fed govt. We are not like we were in the late 1700's where we dumped tea into the harbor to show the English that we would not put up with their control nor their taxation. We thought the English were especially controlling back then. They don't hold a candle to this central govt.
As far as the states are concerned, in the state in which I live, should you find yourself in possession of a house within a certain distance to a moving body of water (they all move here), the DNR dictates to you what color you can paint your house. Talk about controlling.
The thing I find so disconcerting is that people just accept it. The only ones that do any protesting are the ones with whom I would not associate (people like the occupy Wall Street crowd). Normal people are either too lazy or too complacent to get 'up in arms'. I am thoroughly demoralized.
What has happened to my country where a man was a man and a woman was all he could marry, where the boy scouts were the good guys and homosexual predators were the bad guys and if you had children out of wedlock you bore the shame and were not rewarded by a govt handout for keeping the father out of the house?
We are circling the drain, my friend.
If you think about this article it is just as big a joke as this half breed son of a white trash communist whore and neither are funny. I this joke is allowed a second term there will be another civil war,if he loosrs there will be a second civil war ,because his unions and his leftist commie folowers will riot and he will declare marshal law. I think when he looses that we should do as we did with Blanton ,swear in the next president immediately and stop him from doing anymore damage
@skipfoss and Poco424 we are all on the same page. Chances are that only the states are going to survive. The federation is way too corrupt. (Like the states and local are not LOL)
A military coup would be a blessing but the military has been purged of anyone with a backbone or a concouis.(spell check does not work here. Sorry)
Keep training, and keep your powder dry it is going to be needed.
I'm afraid I have to agree with 'legalinvestigations' on this.
You can pass all the laws and regulations you want but if you don't back them up with action they are meaningless. This country has been going down hill since the civil war and it seems now we are circling the drain. We have a president of dubious nationality and the republicans are trying to get a Massachusetts liberal elected to replace him. We have nearly a majority of people who have figured out that if they vote right they can live off of the rest of the population. We have borders so porous that they may as well not even exist and most of the professional politicians are doing what they can to not just justify it but encourage others to come across and enjoy the benefits of citizenship without making the commitment.
I just sit back and shake my head. I don't hold out much hope.
@MarianDClough thank you for sharing!!
Again like all State efforts it's merely ceremonial. They have no intention on enforcing any laws against the Federal regime. They won't arrest Federal agents, or send the State Troopers to Washington or wherever to rescue the kidnapping victims. It's great when they chatter on about this stuff, and once a blue moon pass a law but it's a joke until they're serious about enforcing their laws. Things will be looking up when we hear about Federal agents including IRS, and TSA being arrested on various charges. When Federal facilities within the State are raided by State police, and National Guard under the Governors authority. It would be a victory for liberty when the local news reports that State forces have liberated people from Federal prisons. Although realistically I don't think any of that will ever happen.
Regarding the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). I find it very difficult to understand how the conservatives in the House of Representatives, allowed that to happened Who among us trusts this Executive branch of government enough to allow such ambiguous language as "suspect" to be cause to hold someone indefinitely (possibility their whole life) even a U. S. citizen within the United States? In spite of the fact John McCain proclaims the NDAA to contain no ambiguous statements (he was/is one of the sponsors) there are many, "suspect" is only one. When, by the way, did suspicion become reasonable cause? The point further remains who exactly is it that determines "suspicion" Who among us is so certain it will never be abused by the Executive branch of government that would personally stake their freedom(s) on it? It was determined some time ago by the Secretary of Homeland Security the returning veterans, legally armed citizens and those who store food were possible terrorists, is that suspicion?
Is all government in this country becoming corrupt? Elected congressmen and women officials are to be the watch dogs of our great nations freedoms not the destroyer. If you have not already educated yourself about the brutal treatment of citizens in many countries throughout the world in the twentieth century.
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Especially the last two speakers (after the credits).
I suspect this act may be unconstitutional since it could/would deny a US citizen his right to a speedy trial. But that remains to be seen. Of course Mitch McConnell thought McCain Feingold would also be found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, but it wasn’t.
I am not necessarily a supporter of Ron Paul, however, I do believe his statement of the passage of NDAA may be a first step toward totalitarianism is absolutely correct. I further fail to understand why some action has not been taken against obama to curtail his bold moves to acquire extreme, and some consider excessive, power.
It is obvious, to most reasonable citizens, obama, perhaps more than any president in the recent past (including Bill Clinton) assumes himself above the law. I am also aware many congressmen do as well. However, I find it despicable congress has not interceded into the presidential power grab. I further believe if obama is reelected, by the end of his second term, congress (both the house and senate) will no longer exist or have very little influence if any at all. Similar to what happened in Rome.
In the final analysis if we consider the current president and all future presidents to be above reproach this bill would possibilty make no difference if however, we currently see a president who constantly bypasses the Legislative branch of our government (as he did in Lybia and more recently with the illegal recess appointments, when the Senate was not in recess) the citizens should beware.
The NDAA along with the FEMA camps appear to be in preparation for a 1930's Germany like take over of our constitutional form of government. Remember absolute power corrupts absolutely! Truer words were never spoken.
So if the feds do not show you the signed paper from the sheriff you can shoot and ask questions later? :-) I am starting to like this line of reasoning.
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