Comments on: Nullification: Another Line of Defense Against D.C.

By: Ernest Haggstrom

Ernest Haggstrom — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:07:10 +0000

True to an extent, which is a big part of the reason the Conservatives set out leaving behind the Republicans a full decade ago, or at the very least stopped voting for their nominees. Im fairly conservative, but no way was I going to vote for a Bush or McCain. Yet, the Presidency only has so much force – they CANNOT pass and a more accurate assesment of disbursement comes from looking at who is leading the House and Senate, not the White House. The Obamabots are making a differentiation when it fits them as their President contends to act out his agenda, and the Bushies did the same when the position was reverse later in his Presidency.

By: denialator

denialator — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:46:08 +0000

The President only signs or vetos these authorizations. Right now, if we want to get sticky about it, the persons in charge of the country's fiscal budget and bailouts paid to anyone is the Democratically controlled Congress and the post-turtle usurper-elect Barack Hussein Obama. Get it? Are you smart enough to realize that Republicans have not had anything to do with any of the above complaints you raise since 2006 when the Democrat majority took control of Congressional power? Well, it does not seem so. If there is any blindness or myopia towards criminality in our government, I would have to say the joke is on you, sir. So get with it yourself.

By: denialator

denialator — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:45:28 +0000

So, let me get this straight, frank-o…because you are an imbecile with no concept of what it takes to run a government or a voting machine, you automatically criticize whomever you don't think is taking good care of you. Did I get it just about right? This discussion is really not about Bush or Clinton. Neither of these people is in any official position, nor do they control the size of government through the purse strings. If you read your Constitution, the nation's fiscal budget and expenditures for bailouts, handouts, military and other associated costs come only from the House of Representatives and Congress.

By: Michael Boldin

Michael Boldin — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:17:28 +0000

Dave - each act of resistance (and that's what nullification really is) can bring a different response from the feds. But, there are two very prominent modern examples in practice this very moment - medical marijuana and real id. You can read a little more about these and other efforts at this link.

By: Dave427

Dave427 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:52:29 +0000

Exactly how and if nullification of a major federal law would work is certainly in question as it has not been attempted in modern times. But, what if 20 or so state legislatures began to hold hearings on nullification, and if those 20 or so Governors flat out say that their state will nullify the Health Care Reform Act as unconstituional – wouldn't that shake Washington to its core? I believe states should nullify all acts, laws, and rules the federal government has issued that are unconstitutional. Yes, federal funds will dry up, but we all suck it up a bit and long-term, we retain our freedom.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:09:05 +0000

States do not send the money to the IRS. Indivdiuals and businesses wire money directly from their bank accounts to the US Treasury. This is the #1 leverage of the Federal government.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:06:31 +0000

I have thought long and hard about nullification for months. The problem is in the money. Take Tennessee for example. The State of Tennessee has about a $30 billion annual budget. Of that, about one third comes from the Federal Government. Most of that goes to medicaid, transportation and education. [Of course the Feds are getting this money from the taxes paid directly by individuals and businesses into the US Treasury.] If Tennessee takes the nullification approach on healthcare, the Feds will cut off billions of dollars in money needed in the State budget. The State Legislature will have no choice but to back down. If an indvidual State cannot stop the money flowing out from individuals and businesses into the US Treasury, then nullification won't work. There are only two possible approaches of which I can think. One would be for a State to somehow stop the deposit of tax wittholdings from flowing into the US Treasury. The other would be for enough States to pass nullification in concert at the same time so as to create a political crisis.

By: MichaelBoldin

MichaelBoldin — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:48:33 +0000

Allen – great update, thanks for letting us know! Debra Medina is a fantastic candidate, and a signer of our 10-4 pledge. We have a recent interview of hers that'll be live here on the blog in the next day or so.

By: Allen Lewis

Allen Lewis — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:43:07 +0000

Debra Medina, who is running for Governor of Texas against Rick “Governor Gardasil” Perry and Sen. Kay “Bailout” Hutchison, today petitioned for Perry to convene a special session of the Texas Legislature for the purpose of nullifying the “health care” bill.

http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=182

By: MichaelBoldin

MichaelBoldin — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:12:54 +0000

From your own comment – thousands marched. The politicians “got the message” and it didn’t make a difference. The bill passed.

And regarding the next elections, it’s as if you didn’t notice that all the groundwork for the current national health care plan was laid by Bush and the Republicans…..in 2003, those big-government criminals gave this country the biggest expansion of government control over health care since medicare. And Obama and the democrats are simply taking that ball and running with it even further.

I understand that people truly believe that one political party of the other will make a difference. I do still encourage you to do what you believe is best – but am simply offering a different strategy than what I see as a failed one. If after a few more years of government growth you recognize that as a failed strategy, come on back!