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	<title>Comments on: The Commune: Contrary to Obama&#8217;s Ideology</title>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention The Commune: Contrary to Obama’s Ideology &#124; Tenth Amendment Center Blog -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jason Trommetter, Liberty Ideals. Liberty Ideals said: The Commune: Contrary to Obama&#039;s Ideology #libertarian http://bit.ly/4rJTQr [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jason Trommetter, Liberty Ideals. Liberty Ideals said: The Commune: Contrary to Obama&#039;s Ideology #libertarian <a href="http://bit.ly/4rJTQr" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4rJTQr</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boy, what a bummer you are dude...you would be the lazy ass who would not want to share in the work...probably to busy &quot;thinking&quot; all your heavy thoughts...potentially a little nazi-like creep...go smoke a big fat one and relax... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boy, what a bummer you are dude&#8230;you would be the lazy ass who would not want to share in the work&#8230;probably to busy &quot;thinking&quot; all your heavy thoughts&#8230;potentially a little nazi-like creep&#8230;go smoke a big fat one and relax&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with collectivization is that it is in general incompatible with human nature. 
 
The nature of humans is to conserve energy, Not do anymore then one has to individually.  That means if someone or something else can be made to do something for you, many tend to them. 
 
At the same end if doing something does not produce any fruit worth offsetting the individual cost of doing it, then one tends not to do it. 
 
The natural balancing point of this equation is the point where people either work or die. To that end &#8220;collectivized systems&#8221;, tend to reduce all the people to a status of subsistence or slavery where the gun is used to &#8220;motivate work.&#8221;   
 
Interestingly enough the motivation of &#8220;the gun&#8221; (force more generally) is the same motivation which drives the institution of the military and police forces, as well as the institution of law to guide and govern them and us. 
 
 
Bryce Shonka the only thing government brings to the table is &quot;the gun&quot; if you will, and what they dont understand is just what exactly that means to have a gun held to your head and be told to work, such as the Soviet and other communist empires did. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with collectivization is that it is in general incompatible with human nature. </p>
<p>The nature of humans is to conserve energy, Not do anymore then one has to individually.  That means if someone or something else can be made to do something for you, many tend to them. </p>
<p>At the same end if doing something does not produce any fruit worth offsetting the individual cost of doing it, then one tends not to do it. </p>
<p>The natural balancing point of this equation is the point where people either work or die. To that end &ldquo;collectivized systems&rdquo;, tend to reduce all the people to a status of subsistence or slavery where the gun is used to &ldquo;motivate work.&rdquo;   </p>
<p>Interestingly enough the motivation of &ldquo;the gun&rdquo; (force more generally) is the same motivation which drives the institution of the military and police forces, as well as the institution of law to guide and govern them and us. </p>
<p>Bryce Shonka the only thing government brings to the table is &quot;the gun&quot; if you will, and what they dont understand is just what exactly that means to have a gun held to your head and be told to work, such as the Soviet and other communist empires did.</p>
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