Comments on: Will Texas Nullify Obamacare Mandates?

By: West Texan

West Texan — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:17:24 +0000

@far2right Agreed! …states and their respective residents remain under attack being forced to suffer the abusive overreaching policies of uncontrolled centralized power-brokers. I wish an easier answer to stopping big government’s progressive onslaught existed. Our individual freedoms and states’ domestic affairs have been undermined far too long. The DC beast continues to grow unabated. The proverbial Camel’s back is at its breaking point. Sadly, the Beltways socialist wannabe elitists would rather play their destructive parlor games at the country’s expense.

By: West Texan

West Texan — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:07:29 +0000

@far2right Agreed! Not to mention how the federal government usually violates people’s fundamental rights by hiding behind Article 6′s supremacy clause nullifying anything contrary ” … in the Constitution or Laws of any state …”. Secession appears to be the quickest way out of such a tyrannical mess. Unfortunately, that’s not a realistic option. Nullification sounds more preferable. But again, states and their respective residents remain under attack being forced to suffer the abusive overreaching policies of uncontrolled centralized power-brokers. I wish an easier answer to stopping big government’s progressive onslaught existed. Our individual freedoms and states’ domestic affairs have been undermined far too long. The DC beast continues to grow unabated. The proverbial Camel’s back is at its breaking point. Sadly, the Beltways socialist wannabe elitists would rather play their destructive parlor games at the country’s expense.

By: far2right

far2right — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:22:53 +0000

Texas is making the very same mistake we did in Tennessee. Even if Texas’ state constitution is amended, this will NOT protect Texas citizens against the federal tax penalty. The tax is collected at the federal level. The Texas provision, as in Tennessee, appears to only prohibit the state from action against the citizen. It has no teeth at all to protect the citizen from the federal government seizure of assets, freezing accounts, extracting taxes, etc. No sheriff can stop the IRS, except if they show up at my door to arrest me. Meanwhile, there is nothing the state can or will do to stop seizure of my property which is done from afar.

That is the position of Gov. Haslam in Tennessee. He has acknowledged that the state will do nothing to effectuate any penalty, but further admits that the state can do nothing to stop the feds from effectuating a penalty.

Section 1(d) of the TN HFCA:

“No public official, employee, or agent of this state or any of its political subdivisions shall act to impose, collect, enforce, or effectuate any penalty in this state that violates the public policy set forth in this section.”

The operative words of this clause is “in this state”.

The Governor insists that no state level or lower employee will do anything to anyone who chooses to not get health insurance. But there is nothing the state can do to stop the feds from doing what they can at their level.

Our TN HFCA is effectively toothless against the feds.

There is no wall of separation between the state and federal behemoth.

It appears Texas is making this same oversight.

By: gretathegreek

gretathegreek — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:35:47 +0000

@Ramparts360 @johntweedell I hope so!

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By: Poet_Carl_Watts

Poet_Carl_Watts — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:19:36 +0000

@irasocol Cool. I just know I’m not happy w fed gvt or administration & the erosion of our rights! Not looking for conflict either!

By: irasocol

irasocol — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:07:57 +0000

@Poet_Carl_Watts Nope, other than nullification comes at the peril of breaking up the nation. Which might be good or bad

By: Poet_Carl_Watts

Poet_Carl_Watts — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:06:24 +0000

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By: irasocol

irasocol — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:02:04 +0000

@Poet_Carl_Watts Not how the Civil War played out. Nor Eisenhower at Little Rock

By: Poet_Carl_Watts

Poet_Carl_Watts — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:00:56 +0000

@irasocol no clue, 10th Amendment limits fed power specifically2Constitution, where not specifically granted2fed, exclusively states right