Comments on: Franklin County, Indiana Passes 2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance

By: ilivefreeordie

ilivefreeordie — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 02:07:12 +0000

Need Sheriffs to deputize all citizens in their County as a Ready Reserve Rescue unit, thus thwarting federal gun restrictions. Optional training might be available but not mandatory. Similar to the Swiss militia system.

By: Taluta Robertson

Taluta Robertson — Mon, 06 May 2013 00:12:12 +0000

The 2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance passed by the Franklin County Board of Commissioners has been pretty well laughed at and mocked as worthless and juvenile by many comments because commenters believe they have no authority to uphold it. Which would certainly be a David and Goliath type scenario if it came to its logical conclusion.
And I do agree that the States should develop some ability to manage without the aid of the Federal Government’s many programs and monies whether they make such a stand or not. But it doesn’t seem likely considering the nature of today’s culture considering financial handouts. Its always line up with hands out whether you need it or not.
But rather than make fun or mock them for this action you might think of it in different terms. The counties within the states are sending a message that they do not approve and will take some measures to stop the Federal Government from disarming the citizens of that county. Even if you find this pitiful and funny, you must see that if the majority of the counties within each state passed similar ordinances the message would be something to ponder.
I don’t believe the Obama Administration is ready to open fire on us (American citizens)… yet. Or to become involved in a ‘take over’ of each state, whether with military involvement or using the threat of denying Federal money to gain control and force their will upon the states. I don’t believe they are ready to send in appointed governors, police etc now. The more counties and states making this statement regardless of their ability to follow through is still an important message. We are still a very large nation with many places to search for resisters. That would cost money, oh I forgot this administration would just make more, money and cost mean nothing to them. But to use militarily force against each state to conform to the will of the administration isn’t something their ready to do yet.
As mentioned in the The Crisis of Day by ret sheriff Richard Mack in his Supreme Court ruling – the Supreme Court has alright ruled on the state’s sovereignty. I realize to this administation that means nothing, only his personal will is the goal.
I believe if all or the majority of the states passed a similar legislation with stronger language it would send a message. It has to begin with one and then each additional makes the message stronger. It would make their voice heard. And as each one makes the step it would be heard by the other states not yet committed. I don’t see this as futile, stupid or funny. Again, I do think the language should be stronger.
But a history, political science or law class is not necessarily what is needed in our comments. I think real solutions should be discussed if there are any. And getting stuck in the court system wouldn’t help our situation. That is just what the Obama Administration would want to create a dire need for his take over. Many a history lesson is a good place to start. How could a tyrantical force as strong as the American federal government be faced down?
The states need unified and the ability to communicate and support that obviously the elected officals can’t provide – most of them would sell their own children for a vacation to Cancun. Our safery and protection is not within their understanding.
So what do we do, lay down and smile – act like being a slave is fun? I still think doing what they are doing is something every state needs to do to communicate.
I have to say again that the elected officials do not represent the beliefs and desires of the residents of the state they were elected from , they are just the lesser of two evil people. … maybe.

By: DanielSaccomando

DanielSaccomando — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:28:48 +0000

@ShirleyWilliams1 @DanielSaccomando I am not an originalist by any means, but in the spirit of the second amendment I am willing to make an exception: Muskets for everyone!! And the right to own them may not be infringed!! NO MORE LEGAL INTERPRETATION!

By: DanielSaccomando

DanielSaccomando — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:27:31 +0000

@TannerWilliams @DanielSaccomando But it isn’t the state’s position to determine what is constitutional, it will be up to the Supreme Court, who has time and again said that the right to bare arms isn’t absolute. And, I don’t see the Franklin County Judges, Hon. Steven Cox and Hon. Clay Kellerman, conducting a hearing to determine the constitutionality of any federal law.

By: ShirleyWilliams1

ShirleyWilliams1 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:50:56 +0000

@DanielSaccomando you are right also see the 2nd Admendment of the Bill of Right,s A well Regulated Militia ,being nessary to the security of a free state ,the right of the peoplee to keep and bear arms ,shall NOT Be Infringed. what Part of Not Be Infringed.Do our Repersinatives Not Understand in the Webster Dictionary states to break off break ,impair,violate,to brake a law or agreement ) fail to observe the terms of; violate,infringe on or upon to break in on encroach or trespass on. (the rights, patents,ect.of others.)in otherwards not to Change add to or Take away from W e the peoples Rights now lets deal with the Webster,s Dictionary Meaning of What the word Militia means the Defanition is in reality 2 typs #1 milidia a
) Military service ,Soldiery militis) a soldier orig any military force later any army composed of Citizens Rather than professional soldiers called out in time of emergency in the U S all able-bodied Male citizens Between 18 and 45 years old who are not already members of the Regular Armed Forces members of the National Guard and of the reserves of the Army Airforce Coast Guard Navy and Marine Corps constitute the organized Militia all others ,the Unorganized Militia /Militia /Man (Man) .

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By: AnthonyH

AnthonyH — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:51:04 +0000

I can appreciate the aim of this legislation; but I have no confidence of its effectiveness.
Starting about 25 years ago I began research into financial conditions of cities, counties and states, as documented thru their financial reports. Of all those I examined (20-30), the revenue of every one was partly (30% to 50%) derived from federal handouts. See (http://redressone.wordpress.com/who-owns/)
If there’s a shoving match between feds and state (county or city), will state bureaucrats have the backbone to give up their booty from the feds?
Will the Pied Piper tear up his invoice?
Of course not.
If we are to preserve our rights, we have to learn lessons of American Founders; and there’s not a lawyer, law professor, or judge who can, or will, tell you such lessons. You can read all court reporters and law reviews pertaining to redress, and you might find two or three obscure remarks about the full power of the right of redress.
Such knowledge has been erased from our sanitized law and history books. I accidentally discovered a small fragment of this knowledge twenty years ago. It set me on a quest to find more; after reading 30,000 to 50,000 pages of original history and law books, I found facts of history we are not supposed to know. Here is a short account of how English rebels (1620-1650) (http://redressone.wordpress.com/one-part-in-ten-thousand/) brought down judges and tax collectors, bishops and kings who thot they had a divine right to impose taxes or debt – or disarm – other men without the latters’ consent; men who, 150 years later, would guide American rebels.
What can we do to push back the current frenzy to grab guns? Instead of protesting this frenzy, I suggest that we throw a spotlight on the treachery of those who orchestrate this frenzy. It was thru Operation Fast and Furious that the Justice Department and ATF armed Mexican drug cartels. This led to numerous terrorist acts on both sides of the Mex/American border. The ultimate object was to use these terrorist acts as justification to seize or ban certain guns within the US. See (http://www.businessinsider.com/stratfor-the-us-works-with-cartels-2012-9)
But low-level bureaucrats blew the whistle. Strangely, the Justice Department saw no reason to prosecute itself for this crime/treason.
I suggest that we use the same power American Founders used: petition Congress to appropriate $10 million (you choose the number) to investigate and prosecute those responsible for Fast and Furious; AND to place such appropriation at the disposal of an assembly established and supervised by petitioners for such purpose. See (http://redressone.wordpress.com/pwr-pet/)