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OffNow.org National Campaign Lead Shane Trejo spoke with Traces of Reality radio on Wednesday, discussing efforts to nullify the NSA by turning its water off at the state and local level. Trejo explained the effectiveness of state and local resistance, giving examples of the success of this method across the country on issues such indefinite detention and marijuana legalization. He also elaborated on other legislation offered by the Tenth Amendment Center to nullify unconstitutional federal laws and talked about the most effective ways to reach out to people who support big government.