Glenn:
I’m under the impression that you consider the science behind global warming to be inaccurate, and that the efforts to promote it include hiding truth. A grand conspiracy, of sorts. On your TV show in November, 2009, you said:
Count them. There’s Jones, Mike, Keith, Gene and Caspar, whoever they are. Potentially deleting emails supposedly about supposed science. So why all the secrecy?
You went on:
“Deleting emails. Hiding declines. Incorrect Data. Inadequate systems. Redefining scientific peer reviews for their own uses. This is what appears to be going on behind the scenes. And literally trillions of dollars of policy decisions are being based on what these guys are telling us. If your gut said “wait a minute, this global warming thing, it sounds like a scam” – well, I think you’re seeing it now”
The whole story sounds like a massive conspiracy to give the government an excuse to pass cap and trade, to impose restrictions on business and individual choice, to aggrandize themselves with more money and power. It wouldn’t really surprise me.
That is what government does in the United States. In fact, it’s things like this that made me realize that neither Democrats or Republicans in D.C. had any respect for your freedom or for the Constitution. That was a driving force behind launching the Tenth Amendment Center, which I founded in mid-2006.
But, you know what? I’m not a detective, and I don’t have time to study the science, the clues, the mystery behind global warming or the global warming swindle as many people call it. So, if you had me on your TV show (sorry I wasn’t available when your producers asked last year, but I think my recommendation for a substitute worked out great!), and asked me:
“Michael – do you believe in this global warming scam, do you believe what the mainstream scientists are telling us about global warming – yes or no!?”
I’d have to answer this way:
“I’ve heard a lot of reports from reputable people on both sides of that issue. There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there, so I have not taken a position on that. What I do know is this, I don’t trust the government to tell me the truth.”
In response, would you then say that you’re “writing me off” and “writing the Tenth Amendment Center off” because I haven’t taken a position on this – and that a better source for state sovereignty information is now the Huffington Post?”
Well, that’s basically what you did with Debra Medina on your program this week. The one person in the Texas campaign who’s had the courage to speak out about the Constitution, about nullification and interposition, about the founders, about the principles of liberty that this country was founded upon. That one person is “written off” by you because she hasn’t “taken a position on” a conspiracy theory that may or may not be of interest to her or her campaign?
Wow. Obviously the Constitution isn’t very important to you. A person’s stance on a conspiracy theory is. Or maybe this is just your way of trying to marginalize one of the few candidates in the entire country running their whole campaign on the original view of the Constitution.
Is that it, Glenn? Because it sure seems that way.
Maybe the real conspiracy isn’t 9-11 or Global Warming or anything of the sort. Maybe it’s all about the establishment media, and people like yourself – is this your way of letting the hardcore constitutionalists out here know that you really prefer the establishment candidates?
What should be more important is a person’s stance on the Constitution. In fact, that’s ALL that voters should care about. Not their race, their background, their religious views, their positions on conspiracies or anything else. People are elected to follow the constitution – and nothing more.
What’s more important to you, Glenn – a person’s stance on the Constitution or their view of a conspiracy theory?
Don’t bother answering. You already have.
Michael Boldin is the founder of the Tenth Amendment Center. He was raised in Milwaukee, WI, and currently resides in Los Angeles, CA.
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Nice artical
GB is a poser at best. His claim of being for liberty is nonsense as he is, just as you pointed out, a republican establishment shill.
Bingo! Your exactly regarding Beck. He always talks about how he loves the constitution and then calls the only guy in congress who consistently votes in favor of the constitution, Ron Paul, the mayor of crazy town. Or he advocates a value added tax on everything to pay off the national debt instead of cutting spending. Or he writes off another constitutionalist, i.e. Medna. He such a hypocrite when you look at what he preaches and then at the actions he takes.
I think you need to listen to GB more before you make unfounded remarks
I disagree entirely, but it was an interesting article.
you disagree about what? every word in the post? or that the Constitution is supposed to be the only concern for candidates?
I don't want to put words in Nisa's mouth but I think he/she means that he/she likes Glen Beck but can not refute the fact Glen Beck is an establishment shill. He is the Olbermann of the right. They both have the same job but are meant to control different sets of people.
Instead of listening to Beck, who knows little about Medina and did little to learn about how she feels about the RELEVANT issues of today, why not read her comments on her website to make up your mind? I knew little about her but took time to personally meet her and learn about now she feels about the issues. She's the real deal and a true conservative….smart and a real American. She's not the typical career politician or celebrity with hidden personal agendas.
Your article expresses my argument exactly regarding Beck's hypocrisy. But, an admitted alcoholic often has no difficulty with inconsistency or hypocrisy, nor does he have any qualms regarding to whom he sells his soul for personal aggrandizement or gain.
I have tweeted this twice. Thanks for the post, Michael.
Glad to see your comment, too, Karlin. It is time that people recognize that people need not be at "Glenn's Beck and Call." He is the quintessential Pied Piper. His forte is demogoguery under the label of "The Fusion of on Entertainment and Enlightenment." He may be entertaining at times, but he damned sure is not enlightening! He has the character of the con artist, the demogogue, and the stereotyped used car salesman all rolled into one package. I am glad that you finally saw through him. His show is a pox on the landscape of the Republic. His goal today was to Tea-O-Con people so that the tea party movement can be purified of those who originated it and it can be completely co-opted by the GOP neoconservatives, who have made a concerted effort to take control of the Tea Party people so that they can remake the GOP image in preparation for running someone like Sarah Palin in 2012 with Tea Party support.
You obviously don’t watch the show. He’s been warning the tea party movement for weeks that they would be coopted by the parties if the weren’t careful. But now, somehow, he’s the one coopting it for the GOP? You’ve got to be kidding!
His whole point on medina was that she avoided answering the question, and in doing so, exposed her belief. She’s more than entitled to it, to be sure, but if she really believes it, then it should be the highest priority, but it doesn’t seem to be.
Even her own response to this article demonstrates the fact that she knows it could hurt her election bid. That’s because it’s a fringe conspiracy theory that few in the mainstream espouse.
Similarly, Glenn beck is certainly entitled to his opinion and to give his opinion on HIS SHOW.
Glenn Beck is the 'quintessential Pied Piper' – what the hell does that even mean? He presents a certain point of view and backs up his positions with statements supporting that view. A Pied Piper is someone who leads a non questioning group behind him, he doesn't ask that or expect that. He expects his audience to be mature enougn and well-versed enough in the issues to make their own decisions – that, I suspect, si the true root of your ire. He's a con artist? No, you're just a dufus who could not dispute one of his positions.
And actually, Beck started the 9/12 project which rivaled that of the tea party – it might even have been the genesis. And as far as Medina, I thought the beef was her waffling on the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory – not anything with Global Warming. I think you folks have confused your conspiracy theories.
His show is a POX on the Republic? Well, if you don't like his free speech, or more likely you're just not informed enough to understand his free speech, turn the channel. Why so cscared of his free speech?
Well, its a very good article, but it is kind of overstated to say the Constitution is the ONLY concern.
Once one operates with in the Constitution, there are innumerable choices and judgments that must be made.
what does that even mean??
All the choices that a politician makes in office must be in line with the constitution – or they're violating their oath of office. It's pretty straightforward.
They're offered plenty of choices, most of which don't comply with the constitution.
Too many rely too deeply on the views of Glenn Beck as they hear them at the moment. I am thankful he has encouraged people to read the '5000 Year Leap' while encouraging folks to better understand the U.S. Constitution. Anything that can help people seek knowledge on our heritage is a very good thing. So good, in fact, the more you study the more you can easily identify times when Mr. Beck shows himself to be human as well. In his email sent out for today's show (the one for us regular folk, not the premier member folk, I am not allowed to see that one) he had this to say;
(remainder of comment)
“Interview shocker
Glenn focused in on state politics for a segment on radio to interview the so called tea party candidate from Texas. But the interview took a turn for the worse when Debra Medina dropped the instant loss of endorsement bomb that she was a 9/11 truther. Not good. Check out the interview from radio this morning.”
Beck lovers don’t get me wrong, I like Beck. He has a lot of good points and brings a lot of people to the Constitution education table, which is the one table serving the right answers for our governing challenges. I just have to support this articles main point; if you pick the wrong conspiracy with Beck ALL else is wrong…and that just ain’t right!
Thanks Michael for the insight…GB has fallen far here in Texas. His next cry will be "Me no Alamo, me no Golaid". Hey Glen I never would have beleived you were a come out of the closet homosexual…wanting to "French kiss" Perry and talking about how great he looks in tight pants (disgusting!). Glenn lost a lot of ground and Medina after a stumble will bounch and the "French Kissers" will be scared to death.
Beck no longer needs his clown suit as he surpassed that today on his radio show where he did a crude hatchet job on behalf of GOP neoconservatives. Sold his soul today, and disgraced himself. He was crude, rude and arrogant to even listeners who called in on behalf of Medina. It wasn't Medina he denigrated, it was himself, and he showed his true intentions and colors. Beck No More is now my motto. I will support and vote for Medina. Texas deserves better than what they have gotten for the past eight years.
Go get 'em Sue!. Truth will win and we'll have a great Valentine's Day program with debra. We've had 6 new folks sing up today for the $500.00 a plate dinner in support of Debra, adding to the number we already had and these supporters called after the interview…ngf
Glen Beck just needs to learn how to breath better. Sometimes I think he starves his brain of oxygen, and disregard any interview he has with a woman. They confuse him. The memory of his chat with S.Palin still creeps me out. But, he has done good things and will again, surely.
I don't see why people dislike Beck so much. I understand the putrifying hatred coming from the left but the right hates him for a different reason and that he does not beat the republican drums like others do. I suspect that most of the conservatives who hate him are hard-core republicans or people that voted for McCain.
I have to agree with you here, Michael. I could not believe the way Beck tossed Medina off the air without even asking her about the Constitution and federalism or anything else that actually matters.
It's like he is so concerned about being seen as too far out of the mainstream that he can't even allow certain viewpoints to be aired. What a hypocrite.
My question is: Why did Beck go there at all? I don't think he's ever asked Ron Paul about 9/11.
I wanted to hear about her constitutional positions, not about whether she had any thoughts regarding some irrelevant theory. Beck did himself and Texas a huge disservice by torpedoing her without even letting her speak on the issues that matter. I hope he and Rick Perry are very happy together.
Personally, I don't spend much time thinking about 9/11 or birther or FEMA camp conspiracies. I'm much more concerned about all of the irresponsible, illegal, and unconstituional things I can prove the federal government does every single day.
@Josh (and Michael),
Exactly!! Man, I was pacing after listening to that interview. Trying to decide to call in (no, he'd just ridicule any opposing view) or write a blog (but do I even spend energy on that?). What he did was deplorable…
You both captured much of my thoughts and feelings. There is much that Beck has done and will do that I consider great (hell, WST Frederick was born on March 13th, 2009). This is one of those times that highlighted Beck's being 'human' – this was a giant misstep.
He could simply dismiss this as a disagreement (albeit big) and then move on. But he takes it a step too far lumping everything together and ridiculing her and anyone that 'might' fit into the category. Then goes even further to prove his reason/point. I've seen/heard him do this before and can't stand it.
Very disapointed…and the exact reason I always say, "Principles will stand the test of time, but people will always fail you."
-Joshua
**REASONS WHY IMO**
Palin is in so deep with Perry, a loss for Perry is a loss for Palin on a major stage. I have nothing against Palin, but I also don't necessarily believe she is the savior of our country and I don't believe her win is more important than everything else. She all the sudden doesn't look like the "leader" of the Tea Party movement she is unofficially taking the lead of.
Beck made a mistake when he cut up Perry (or so he was told so by the Palin crowd) and now we have the flip flopping on his part and soon he will say Pecos Perry is the best of the three. Excuse me Glen? You don't speak for this Texan. I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm sharp enough to see through this BS.
Texas needs Medina NOW!! I've never donated to a politician, but tonight she gets my $50.
Just listened to Debra on the "Wells Report" here in Dallas. I think I have to accept her explanation. Haven't really figured out why Beck wanted to set her up though. I will vote for Debra in the primary and see where it goes.
Dynamite post, Michael. Your analogy hits the nail square on the head – and the nail is called "Glenn Beck's claim to be a constitutionalist.". He just exposed himself today, for all to see.
How's that winter breeze feel blowing up your "aaa-lley way", Glenn?
I had considered voting for Medina until she made the decision to let her beliefs known on the legalization of pot. So anything she said after that was just a breeze going by. There is not much a of a choice out there and she blew it with me.
question – where in the Constitution is the federal government given the authority to ban or prohibit marijuana – or any other plant for that matter?
Her beliefs on legal pot ? or her deliefs that the federal government has no jurisdiction over the Texas people and that that right is up to us Texans in a vote ? the latter is her views.
funny because Beck has stated on many occasions that he'd be ok with legalizing pot. I don't think Medina said that once. She simply doesn't think it's a federal position to take. It's for the states and the people to decide. Not Washington
Who, other than people who somehow trust the Federal government, would believe anything coming out of the DC spin machine? I think the fact that Medina didn't snap to attention on GB's show and recite the 'official' story of 9/11 speaks volumes about her integrity, as well as her relationship with the establishment. She doesn't have a position on it. What she does have is an impeccable position on the CONSTITUTION. GB had a choice today- side with the people, or side with the establishment. He chose poorly IMO.
We should all be questioning the words and actions of the Feds on every issue. After all, the moves that DC are making OUT IN THE OPEN these days are so horrid, so indicative of their contempt for We the People that I don't need shadowy conspiracy tales to be outraged.
OK, so Medina DID back up large portions of the 'official' version of 9/11 events on her website, in response to the Beck interview.
But then she talked about trusting the government…and why one should question government.
You guys are so kooky.Medina gave a politicians answer to a yes or no question.Beck was a jaghole but who cares?You certainly shouldn't.Now get back in there a help out with the damage control lil buddy.Let's hope this wasn't her Dean "YEE-HARW" moment.
The issue Medina "hasn't taken a position on" is whether the September 11 attacks were an inside job.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/...
Come on, Debra.
Medina HAS taken a position! I'll check out the link, but what seems real clear to me is that Medina simply said that people have some good arguments to support the idea that the American people haven't seen all the evidence. That's not even close to the same thing as not taking a position on whether the September 11 attacks were an inside job. In fact, in a written statement she released right after the interview she issued a written statement:
"..there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way."
http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=272
That said, I'm sure that few if any Americans inside or outside the government have seen all the evidence about events surrounding 9/11. New information that was previously unreleased about events surrounding Pearl Harbor have just come out in the last few years. Information about operation Keelhaul was deliberately suppressed for many years after the event. That's just the way our federal government works. Recognizing this fact doesn't mean you believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Good Job! Glenn Beck needs a drink. Damn neocons.
wow – you've the searing repartee of an 11 year old. WOW.
This is most likely a political play, as was stated above. Beck was probably rided about anti-Perry comments, and he flipped to the other side with discrediting Medina. The real losers here are the American People in the sense that once again, we have an example of 'the same old politics" Who is rubbing whose back. Why does Palin support McCain? Why does she support Perry? Political favors… sadly. Medina stands strong for the Constitution, many thought Palin did until she decided to back McCain…
Michael, you have done a great job of putting Beck in his place. And I have supported Beck on many things.
The people need statesmen who will stand for the Constitution as their oath declares. As Michael and Josh stated, there is so much daily going on that is unconstitutional, when will the true constitutionally minded candidates be able to get this country back on track with the founding principles as it's guide book.
I knew Glenn Beck was a shill for the neocons when he equated Ron Paul supporters to terrorists for donating to Ron Paul's campaign on Guy Fawkes day. He never got the real point.. or was deliberately being deceptive. Ron Paul supporters are peaceful, liberty loving, constitution loving people from all walks of life. Glenn Beck, however, is a jumpy, deceptive wolf in sheep's clothing attempting to steer OUR movement in HIS direction. How pathetic he is.
That being said, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit that he shrugged off Medina on the issues and tried to frame her as a nutjob (oh, the irony). Seriously, where does he get off?
This is most likely a political play, as was stated above. Beck was probably rided about anti-Perry comments, and he flipped to the other side with discrediting Medina. The real losers here are the American People in the sense that once again, we have an example of 'the same old politics" Who is rubbing whose back. Why does Palin support McCain? Why does she support Perry? Political favors… sadly. Medina stands strong for the Constitution, many thought Palin did until she decided to back McCain…
Glen Beck supports Perry!
Enough said. People will do anything or say anything to aide their candidate. Mission accomplished on his part.
I quit watching Beck, once I realized that HE IS ON TV. No one is there without a purpose. He finally tipped his hand and now we know why HE IS ON TV. Really good work Michael, really good.
Mr. Boldin, you don't have to be a detective to understand how the Cargo Cult Science (reference Feynman, 1974) of anthropogenic global warming is "inaccurate, and that the efforts to promote it include hiding truth." This has been evident (to my personal appreciation) since it began to be bruited toward the close of the '70s, and most of the critiques in my archives – promulgated as early as 1981 – have pointed out very much the same flaws in the AGW hypothesis as the most recent countervailing opinions.
What "detective" work is required? The evaluation of the fundamental premise of anthropogenic (man-made) carbon dioxide forcing as the sole truly significant factor in "tipping" the global climate into catastrophic warming – or instability of any kind – must be appraised on the basis of rather elementary physics. This is college undergraduate stuff at most. That having been said, the idea was bloody idiocy back during the Carter Administration. It's gained precisely nothing in validity (billions of dollars in wasted grant funding notwithstanding) in the decades since.
What surprised me most about the Climategate revelations was the CLUMSINESS of the Climatic Research Unit correspondents in the advancement of their fraud. Properly understood, these were incompetent individuals who became fixated upon clunky, inadequate, primitive global climate computer models originally developed in the '80s, fed inaccurate surface station temperature readings, and then erroneously "predicting" catastrophic northern hemisphere temperature increases.
Garbage in, garbage grind, garbage out.
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But professional panic mongers like Algore caught up this error and saw it as a way to grow their personal political power (and plunder), and suddenly these incompetents began getting big government grants, growing in prestige, and effectively able to take over editorial policy and peer review in their discipline's professional literature.
Error became concerted fraud. And, as I've said, CLUMSY fraud. i hardly expected their mendacity, exposed so suddenly, so thoroughly, in the "FOIA.zip" archive (of which only a small portion was e-mails; the bulk was made up of "cooked' data files, godawful incompetent computer code for their models, and the like) would be so puerile, so STUPID.
I'd expect this kind of crap from a college undergraduate. From a bunch of men entitled to be addressed as "Doctor"? No way!
The AGW fraud falls (indeed, it never really could be said to have succeeded in the scientific sense) on its own merits, and the conspiracy of the CRU correspondents is merely incidental.
Not hard to pick up at all, really.
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I watch and listen to Glenn Beck quite often. There are times when I really like what he is saying since he's one of the only mainstream pundits who has that "it" factor to sense things that don't seem or smell right. But, then he has these weird reactions to things that I just don't get. If someone asked me about the 9-11 thing, I'd probably give a similar answer that Medina did. Al-Qaeda Muslims flew planes into the buildings and the pentagon and killed 3K people and billions in capital/property, but there is some weird stuff that doesn't add up with what appears to be odd cover up. According to Beck, I must be a raving lunatic because I don't have all of the facts nor do I really care. For whatever reason, there are a few round pegs that don't go into square holes. Beck is flat wrong on this and he's entitled to his opinion, but going around just saying "she's a truther" is complete ridiculous.
Wow! great post. This has been a day of "busted bubbles" for me…first Debra Medina and then Glen Beck. Your article has given me some needed perspective on the way things unfolded today. I am back on Debra Medina's bandwagon and see the hypocrisy of Glen Beck. Today, his own elitism was on display and he did a disservice to Ms. Medina and the people of Texas.
If the alcoholic morman who believes jews settled the western hemisphere (now proven a total lie, it's causing HUGE problems for morman biologists) …. wants to try to derail Debra…
the NWO perry is his boyfriend.
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I'm glad I missed Medina on Beck's radio show today. Sounds like it would have been a complete waste of time. Well, worse, actually, because if GB had provided any thoughtful analysis and discussion, Medina's campaign could have gotten a shot in the arm, instead of in the head.
Talk about single issue voters…GB has set a new standard (and not one to be proud of).
Fortunately, I was privileged to hear Medina in person yesterday. Came away more convinced than ever that she absolutely loves the Constitution, and the state of Texas.
What beck did was out right disgusting. We need to expose this fraud from coast to coast, before he can dig his teeth and claws any deeper into the tea party movement.
If anyone has any ideas on how to discredit this fool, e-mail me. warheadz_2000@juno.com
"Dig his teeth…into the tea party movement."?!?!?! He STARTED the Tea Party Movement you jackhole.Don't fry Beck because Medina pants herself on the biggest stage she's ever been on.What a pity.I was rooting for her.
Nathan,
Glenn Beck may have "birthed" the 9-12 Project, but he absolutely did not start the Tea Party movement. Although I'm sure he doesn't mind people like you spreading that rumor for him.
Interestingly, a link at LRC this afternoon unlocked the mystery behind who really started the tea parties (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalinte...
Here's a hint: They were Ron Paul supporters.
Maybe your "jackhole" was a bit premature?
Glen Beck hijacked the Tea Party movement for the establishment Republicans.
He called for the original Tea Party members to be executed for the same reason (there were truthers among them). Glen Beck did more to get Obama elected than anyone on the left.
There is no need to expose Beck because he has been exposing himself for years. Look at this video for crying out loud.
[youtube L6C6E6ayh4U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6C6E6ayh4U youtube]
Glen Beck hijacked the Tea Party movement for the establishment Republicans.
He called for the original Tea Party members to be executed for the same reason (there were truthers among them). Glen Beck did more to get Obama elected than anyone on the left.
There is no need to expose Beck because he has been exposing himself for years. Look at this video for crying out loud.
[youtube L6C6E6ayh4U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6C6E6ayh4U youtube]
Uh, oh. This sounds like the beginning of a conspiracy…
email your friends and get a campaign going to send back any of your Glenn Beck books (Common Sense would be a good one). Go to his website and send him an email. Flood him with comments to let him know we dissaprove of his unprofessional interview. I heard that within 1 hour of the show, literature was being dropped in the DFW metroplex? It takes time to organize and print those. Obviously a planned sneak attack!
Agreed. But lets not just whine and moan about it! Email Glenn Beck and politely tell him how disapointed you are with how he behaved and screwed up and misrepresented Medina.
me@glennbeck.com
Go write him and tell everyone you know to do it too!
OK first the bad, I think if you had posted a link to the article, you'd have had less people writing about global warming. That being said you make a valid point on Glenn Beck. That interview was an ambush, and it is poor form for Glenn to give so little time to her quality as a candidate, and ask such an off topic question, without sufficient elaboration time. I don't like to think of beck as an establishment broadcaster, after all he got on board with the Paul campaign after some clarification. Maybe we need to send him our reasons for supporting her. After all, I had to spend about 18 hours digging thru the facts, and rumors of 9/11 before I finally felt confident in my understanding of the events. Not everyone has that kind of time that has that level of (justified) skepticism. For what it's worth from Oregon.
There is documented proof (it's called history) which shows that gov'ts have murdered
nearly 200 million of their own people in the 20th century. In order to do that and get
away with it, you need: Power, propaganda, control of the press, minions to follow orders
without question, control of the courts, control of information, etc. In other words, you need
to be able to control and deceive people broadly. You need to act in concert with others
without exposing yourself openly.
By its very nature the state is a conspiracy. All "conspiracy"
means is that more than one person agree tacitly or expressly to pursue a certain agenda –
and we mostly apply it to criminal activity. And for the state, we say that they are acting outside
the bounds of their power. That's what "tyranny" means. It's illegitimate power. If those in power
act illegitimately without legal authority, if they bend the rules, hide information, issue false
information, arrange for cover ups or are complicit in cover ups, etc., they are engaged in
conspiracy.
Strangely enough we find that state power is usually quite sufficient to do all of these things.
In fact, their power far exceeds any other criminal organization since they are believed to
be endowed with special powers to do things that no other individual or group can do. They
can drop bombs on people in foreign lands and call it defense. They can kill innocents and
call it collateral damage. They can steal trillions or create it out of nothing and give it to favored
constituents like large banking interests. They can claim they need to keep information secret
for "national security". They can spy on you. They can make you fill out forms about how you
spent every dollar you made. They can take your property. On and on and on.
Therefore the state is the most dangerous and the most lethal organization of all. To put the claims
of the state on any particular event or issue to the test is one of the most sane and normal things that
the average person can do. It isn't the powerless who move trillions of dollars and have power to shut
people up, put them in jail, invade other countries, write thousand-page laws, counterfeit money at
will, nullify human rights, etc. Why would any sane person blindly trust the gov't? Why would any sane
person ridicule those who seek the very "transparency" and "integrity" that people like Beck talk about
repeatedly? Why can't we get a real independent investigation? Why get we get all the information?
Why can't we have subpoena power? Why can't Bush and Cheney be put under oath – and countless
others? Why can't we catch them in their numerous lies by putting them under the same pressure
that we are always under? Doesn't Beck claim to stand against elitism and secrecy and unjust power
and lies?
I don't think the criticism of Beck goes far enough if people still accept his premise that it's nutty to
question the gov't or to keep an open mind on ANY official story that comes out of DC. He should be
called a "truther" on climate change, a truther on the progressive conspiracy, a truther on the fall
of the American Republic, a truther on the national debt, a truther on communists in gov't. Let's see
how he likes it. He must be purged immediately for doubting politicians and scientists, right? And
he must purge his staff of anyone who believes in any conspiracies of his, right?
By the way, Medina has a response to the GB interview on her website: http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=272
Sorry but Debra came off as a nut. She was asked the question about 9/11 because of e-mails Beck had gotten speaking negatively about her on that point and he wanted to clear it up. It was a yes or no answer. That it took her hours to formulate her lengthy response to post online speaks volumes. It wasn't just the 9/11 thing that was wrong though. She gave a terrible interview from the start when he asked her to tell about who she is. She couldn't do it, she went into a diatribe about Perry and had to be asked again about who she is. She fumbled her tax answers. I would personally love to vote for someone other than Perry and Hutchison will never get my vote for any office. I had hoped to be impressed by Medina. Now, I'm back to the drawing board and wondering if one of the Democrats or Libertarian candidates might be worth looking at. I have a feeling though that Perry is going to win the day and likely always was but Medina certainly didn't help herself. It comes down to "yes" or "no" and she fumbled and danced rather inelegantly.
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Debra had never mentioned 9-11 truth even among her family. Where did all these e-mails Beck claimed to have come from? I have a feeling that if she would have answered the question "no" Beck would have a list to go thru to finaly trip her up with something. If she comes off as a nut I guess 86% of Americans are nuts because thats the number that has questions about 9-11. I am sorry you trust your goverment that completely.By the way, Debra Medina IS the libertarian canidate
I'm someone who has been a persuadable skeptic about Beck, but he seems to have gradually moved in the right direction and has brought positive attention to the 10th Amendment movement. He claims to be a libertarian, but still says things that irk me from time to time. I've tried to be patient and wait and see. But what he did to Debra Medina today seemed like a malicious pre-meditated ambush! I couldn't believe it. Why would he set her up like that and try to discredit someone who is so clearly a dedicated strict constitutionalist and champion of state sovereignty? It made me sick and I'm totally confused as to what his motive could have possibly been.
Get a grip people. When you are so sold on your candidate that no negative info can sway you, you sound like Obama supporters.
And to say Beck doesn't care about the Constitution is just incredible.
Don't you folks understand that 9/11 truthers were Progressives concocting theories to discredit Bush? They were so deranged in hatred of him that they would do anything. That conservatives would sign on to this shows poor judgement at the very least.
Be careful. I think the conspiracy theorists on the right, and those who enable them, may bring down the tea party movement.
Discredit Bush? you have got to be kidding me. Virtually everything that thug did while in office was a violation of the Constitution. And he paved the way quite nicely for even greater violations of your rights for the next thug, Obama.
The point of the article is simple – Beck put belief or not belief about a conspiracy theory as more important than the Constitution.
That should be the only issue when considering a candidate. Otherwise you end up with people thinking the Bushes and Clintons and Obamas and the rest of the criminals actually follow the document from time to time.
So it was Progressives that started the whole 9/11 truth movement? Sounds like quite a conspiracy.
It's funny though, pretty much all the people I know who believe the government was somehow involved on 9/11 are not involved in politics at all. I think many of them are too apathetic to even vote.
I look forward to more conspiracy theories about how the Progressive [Liberals] are behind all the evils in the world.
Debra Medina's fumble on the Beck program was crushing and while the Global warming comparison is rather interesting (particularly seeing as how the left has been activity working to write off anyone as a nut-case that dares question it).
To my knowledge there is substantially better evidence that 9/11 was carried out by terrorist then that it may have been a government ploy.
Debra Medina may not personalty have been aware of all that evidence, and her limited information set on the matter may indeed demand she keeps an open-mind (which is a virtue not a vice). Not everyone has been tackling National Security issues for the last 9 years.
Indeed I seem to remember a large chuck of our population giving credence to the so called "truther" conspiracy, not so long ago.
All that being said it is rather clear that Debra Medina is not NOW a 9/11 "truther."
http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=272
To be quite honest I was a bit dismayed by Glenn's handling of the situation and quick write off, seemed a bit unfair.
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I heard that rebuke of Medina on the radio and was appalled by how GB just dimissed her like she was irrevelent because she would not take a position on the 911 issue. Sometimes you just want to grab the mike from him and scream: WAKE THE F%*K UP!
Look at this list of people wasting their intellect by commenting on this putrid pundit; whose real job is to create distractions in the minds of fools who watch and listen to him. Ignore him, and the people who have placed him in the spot-light will replace him with another jerk in the same clothes.
Keep your minds focused on building a new government, one way or another, until we have restored freedom to this country, and using the existing system to implement that objective is a waste of time. Michael is playing Becks game when he responds to Becks verbal legerdemain.
OldDog said that!
Beck may care about the Constitution but he also shows his hand by this interview…it was unprofessional and too biased and it didn't compare to the kiss up interview he did with Palin which was nauseating. They just sat there for an hour and basically agreed with everything each other said.
I have listened to Beck for quite a while now and though I don't agree with him on all things I think many times he raises good points about many of the issues but for some time now I have noticed he is capable of flip flopping on something and maybe he will see the light with Medina.
I am not from Texas but really like her and will send in financial support for her. No one is going to be the PERFECT candidate for any given office but just think of what our country might be like if many in office were like her?
Beck needs to stop thinking so highly of himself and come down off his high horse…how he supports Perry I will never know but he I think has made a serious error with his "group" that follows him.
Just finished reading an EXCELLENT piece on the notion of conspiracies …. that speaks well to all this..
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/02/rid...
DO read the growing flow of comments –
One commenter "Tucci " put it well in his opening paragraph – "Conspiracy is a tool of both the powerful and the weak. It is merely covert combination so as to cohere resources and action toward a purpose, which purpose would meet resistance if its nature (and the methods of its supporters) became widely known."
My immediate reaction was the same as the author – hatchet job. It’s not as though it were an impromptu phone call – Beck was hell bent on doing a hatchet job based on HIS 911 beliefs and she was hell bent on getting her message out on a bigger stage than she could have ever dreamed of. If she had just listened and answered the questions as asked I think she could have blunted his 911 assault. But she was so determined to take full advantage of the opportunity to get her total campaign message out her answers sounded like they had been prerecorded by an automaton.
apparently Beck didn’t warn her ahead of time that he was going to do a smack-down
It was as though she didn’t have ears
Yesterday in my comments I said I liked Glenn Beck. I am still glad he raised awareness of the Constitution and encouraged people to read the 5000 Year Leap but on the way home from work yesterday I was able to hear the entire interview segment, including the ridiculous rants after he hung up the phone. We all are able to change our minds and Mr. Beck has changed mine, I don't like Beck. Also, with all the common sense Debra Medina was making regarding transitioning Texas from an over taxed state on property to a state run on consumption taxes purely I want to know about her so we can talk to our family in Texas. She sounds like she really gets it and Beck sounds like he really misses it all.
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